Just something to think about.

[ineffabelle]

"Just say that the conservative Christian claim that humans have souls and that they get those souls at conception (which is the claim I was raised with) is correct. Then assume for a moment that their other claim is also correct and that there is only one very specific way for those souls to go to Heaven. I was also taught that aborted and miscarried fetuses, babies, and young children got a free pass into Heaven because they did not yet understand "right and wrong", so were still innocent. That would mean that almost everyone (based on percentages) in Heaven would be one of these "free pass" souls. Aborted babies would almost certainly end up in Hell if they weren't aborted, considering that parents who would abort would not train their children in the proper way (once again, according to the conservative Christian position). So, it seems a bit cruel to send all those people to Hell just to promote your agenda."
- Kent McManigal

Comments

[mlfoley.livejournal.com]

They're just jealous that the babies get to be with the J-man before they can be with him. It's so very petty!

(whatever happened to the medieval and Calvinist "all babies are evil and going to HELL!" thought?)

[qilora.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA

[grandmofhelsing.livejournal.com]

This is like when I used to annoy my Sunday school teachers with my argument that fulfilling the "great commission" to take the Gospel to everyone was doing people living in total ignorance of Jesus a disservice, since that puts them on the hook for living Christian lives. Unless, of course, those people are already on the hook, in which case, that doesn't say anything good about the supposedly loving God, who is punishing them for breaking rules they could never know were rules.

[amp23.livejournal.com]

good food for thought.

what always gets me about the abortion argument is the built-in assumption that every conception will go one to a productive healthy life if it weren't for the doctor's abortive interference.

this assumption leads to further assumptions regarding the upcoming new life, to the point of ignoring that more than 30% of all conceptions are aborted by god himself.

so when a miscarriage comes along, people are thrown into a tailspin of depression as if something were wrong with them, or they were singled out for some unforeseeable tragedy, when in fact one in three conceptions ends that way with no help from man.

it's exactly the reason why mothers used to spend 9 months praying for a live birth with 5 fingers and toes on each hand. it wasn't a foregone conclusion and people recognized that.

if every conception led to a viable life, we could have the 'murder' argument, but when 30% are taken by god before birth, it makes me wonder why they don't take their same attitude and see god as the biggest abortion doctor of them all.