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[ineffabelle]

"Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the Son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven."

This might be the cleverest thing the J man ever said.

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[wyndhover.livejournal.com]

I honestly don't have an opinion on that. However, off the top of my head it occurs to me that Plato was at least a contemporary and an eyewitness to Socrates speaking, which to my mind (and without much certainty, as I am not well-researched on the lives of Socrates or Plato) gives it far more reliability than any of the gospel accounts of what Yeshua might have said.

[zachariahskylab.livejournal.com]

The earliest texts we have of Plato are from the 2nd or 3rd century A.D. So there's a lot of time between the two.

Plato claims to be a contemporary of Socrates, but the earliest platonic manuscript we have comes about 7 centuries later.

The writers of the gospels claim to be contemporaries of Jesus. The earliest texts we have come two centuries later.

It seems unfair to accept Plato's claim but to deny the claims of the persons who wrote down the account of Yeshua's life.

text & lineage & how much authenticity we're really likely to be getting, ever.

[wolodymyr.livejournal.com]

I don't think this stuff ever gets brought up enough, zachariahskylab, thank you.

Re: text & lineage & how much authenticity we're really likely to be getting, ever.

[ineffabelle]

As I may have said obliquely, I am starting to think that everything is a matter of mythology and communication theory. Everything else is just a variant, or subcategory of those fields.

[wyndhover.livejournal.com]

...I quite agree, which is why I stated that I was not well-researched and therefore not certain. Do a favour and don't assume my positions on things I'm not stating positions about in order to make a point?